was it ever mentioned how elias feeds the eye? he doesn't seem to read statements so what exactly is keeping him alive?

same for martin-- shouldn't his adjacency to the lonely make him need to feed it?

is jon the only one who we actively see and know about how he feeds his entity?

The Eye is the fear of being watched, having your darkest secrets known, that people will stand aside and not help you when you’re suffering, and probably some other things. I don’t think every Avatar of The Eye relies on, or even have anything to do with, Statements.

It was always my assumption that Elias is the one watching Jon in the first season, though it may have been The Eye itself.

Either way, I do think he will hire people like Martin, that aren’t necessarily qualified for their jobs and are scared of being found out. Found out specifically by him, their boss.

He also can, canonically, see through the eyes of things that depict eyes, most likely giving people the unnerving feeling of being watched.

(EDIT: I completely forgot, he can also literally read minds, so he likely will do what he did to Rosie, and say things that allude to what they’re thinking, unnerving them and making them self conscious.

He also blackmails people, so there’s that.

I think Elias is fed by a lot of smaller, more passive, fear, there’s just so much he doesn’t need to be concerned about The Eye feeding on him.)(I also think his form of Eye fear is more “knowing your secrets” than “watching your suffering”)

As for Martin, I’d imagine that his own loneliness was feeding the Lonely, Melanie is antagonistic towards him, Basira is likely indifferent about him, Tim, who you could probably call his friend, just died, Jon was in a coma, Sasha is dead. He then decides to isolate himself from everyone, so it’s probably that.

Personally, I think he was also feeding on Jon, once he woke up. During season four, he avoids any interaction with Jon, when they do interact he is dismissive or outright condescending to him, and he sets the few people Jon does have around him, Daisy, Basira, and Melanie, even more against him than they already were.

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He probably lays under the piles that the last archivist left like a kid playing hide and seek while Jon reads statements

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He did read one in MAG 92. Dunno if we just don’t see other times since the Web isn’t usually following him or if the Watcher’s Crown ritual made him not need to feed as another perk to being able to hop bodies. Which I just realized we never really got an explanation for how that worked either.

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Unless we did in MAG 160 and I forgot cause I only listened to it once.

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@manueladominguezliker basically elias probably got some tomfoolery going on that makes him either need to feed less, or not at all, because he's clearly not suffering the way jon is

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@edettethegreat Something of the sort.

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Elias could be feeding the eye with watching instead of with learning like Jon

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I always thought elias purposefully got him addicted to the statements as concentrated fear doses, like an avatar addiction so that he made /sure/ jon couldn’t cut ties with him fully, so jon’s complete dependence is somewhat atypical (dunno if that’s canon tho)

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There is also the entirety of artifact storage, iirc its a common headcanon that he passively feeds on that

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(This is also a bit of an analysis of the episode.)

(just so you know, this is very long.)

So first of I should say that I 100% agree with Jon, that they should have trapped The Fears in their world; so just know I’m probably being, at least a bit, biased about it. (not saying killing the world is good)

I think the best way to do this is to start from the beginning of the episode and work my way through it, giving criticism as I go.

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Yes, I knew it was Elias
No, I thought it was Jon
No, I thought it was a different character (an established character)
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Melanie “I’m gonna blame all my problems on one person” King
Georgie “ I do not see it” Barker
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Tim “revenge” Stoker
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Martin: Jon, where are we?

Jon: This place i-

Martin: Actually, no, I don’t want to know.

Jon: You sure?

Martin: Yep.

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Jonathan “Kill the world” Sims
Martin “Get our murder on” Blackwood
Gertrude “Sacrifice everyone” Robinson
Basira “I can excuse murder, but I draw the line at nightmares” Hussain
Alice “Daisy ‘Had a literal killing spot’” Tonner
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What should they have done in MAG 200
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Jon’s plan (contain the fears)
Nothing (contain the fears)
Something else that wasn’t suggested (put in tags)
I have no idea what’s going on (see results)

New headcanon. The entire archives crew are aromantic.

Jon: Aromantic/Asexual, when he broke it off with Georgie he thought it went bad because he thought that she was mad he didn’t feel the same way (she was fine with it, but decided she did want a romantic partner) and his feeling for Martin was mostly just because of the situation. ( I talked about it more here)

Martin: Aromantic/Homosexual, he’s never actually dated anyone, when he meets Jon he thinks he’s attractive and then he starts to care about him and is like “this must be romantic love”

Sasha: Aromantic/Pansexual, she and Tim hooked up for a one night stand, and then met at work and it was kinda awkward,and everyone thought they were a couple or exes or something, but then they became friends and make jokes about it.

Tim: Aromantic/Bisexual, great at flirting, doesn’t actually care to have a romantic relationship though. Gets really awkward when someone reads too much into it and tries to have a deep romantic relationship.

Basira: Aromantic/Bisexual, she and Daisy have a very committed relationship, but it’s not romantic. I feel like she might have have one night stands very rarely, but definitely not any time during the podcast.

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